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Behind the scenes...

Postby Nathan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:40 pm

It no longer surprises me how quickly some of the best known names in the firearms industry swap out their $3,000+ custom 1911s for bone stock Glock 17s/19s as soon as the cameras are put away.
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Postby jeffhughes » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:40 pm

Do you upgrade your sights?

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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby yankeejib » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:44 pm

jeffhughes wrote:Do you upgrade your sights?


I like the Glock nightsights. Just connect the dots, but I suppose a fat Mepro up front wouldn't hurt anything.
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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby jeffhughes » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:04 pm

I prefer blacked out rear and Trijicon HD up front.

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Postby Nathan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:27 pm

When my OEM Glock night sights ever fade I will swap them out for a green front with white rear. Sights are the only upgrade I would ever consider on a Glock and only then because they have nothing to do with gun function.
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Postby Ohio9 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:29 pm

I like night sights too, but I'm always a bit worried about the chance of improper installation that could throw the sights off, even if just by slight degrees. Is there any chance of that, or am I thinking too deep into this?

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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby Hand and Steel » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:15 pm

Ohio9 wrote:I like night sights too, but I'm always a bit worried about the chance of improper installation that could throw the sights off, even if just by slight degrees. Is there any chance of that, or am I thinking too deep into this?


I tend to think you may be worrying too much. At what maximum distance are you likely going to be shooting in the dark, and if it is dark enough to warrant the use of night sights, how far out do you think you can positively identify your target? Twenty yards?

If you can see your target clearly, then there must be some sort of lighting either lighting the target himself or silhouetting him, in which case you should be able to silhouette the sights against the target. But more importantly, are the sights really that important on a defensive handgun? I agree it's good to have them, and have them correctly installed for best accuracy if you need to take a long shot, but the vast majority of pistol shooting is done at ranges where using the sights is not really necessary, and is in fact more of a hindrance to effective fighting. Even at longer ranges, it is possible to make good hits without any use of the sights. In this dark, this skill becomes even more vital.

Then again, if you really do want the best night sights for your Glock, you could always try these. :D

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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby Ohio9 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:23 pm

Hand and Steel wrote:I tend to think you may be worrying too much. At what maximum distance are you likely going to be shooting in the dark, and if it is dark enough to warrant the use of night sights, how far out do you think you can positively identify your target? Twenty yards?


That doesn't matter. I don't want improperly calibrated sights on my gun no matter how far or close my target is.

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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby Nathan » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:40 pm

Ohio9 wrote: I'm always a bit worried about the chance of improper installation that could throw the sights off, even if just by slight degrees. Is there any chance of that, or am I thinking too deep into this?

Both; I'll explain. While your concern is valid, its harder to screw up the installation than it is to do it right.

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This is a common Glock sight tool. There are many variations of it but they are all essentially the same. The fine thread adjuster allows you to incrementally center the rear sight until it's perfect. You can determine what is center within a fractional millimeter that isn't going to make one bit of difference at any reasonable handgun distance and even if you did you can determine this at the range and make adjustments as needed in seconds.

I've found far more often than not, such issues are shooter issues and not sight issues anyway. For example, I used to train exclusively with my 9mm Glock 19 and then carry my 357 Sig Glock 32 (exact same gun except for caliber). I found that when I would train with my Glock 32 that I would shot both high and low and to the right. It drove me nuts trying to get the rear sight adjusted perfectly until I finally shot some downloaded 357 Sig loads (125 grains @ 1200 fps) that I realized the problem was with me. With the downloaded loads I was shooting my G32 just as surgically as my G19, but with the full potential 357 Sig loads I was anticipating recoil. 357 Sig isn't even a brutal recoil but because I was training at least a thousand rounds a month with 9mm, when I would shoot the 357 Sig I would anticipate and adjust my grip and trigger pull accordingly. After spending more range time with my G32 I was eventually able to train out this anticipation. I truly learned from this experience. I still train with my G19 and often carry my G32 (although I carry a G22 the most), but I'm far more accurate with the G32 than I was originally. While I still shoot the G19 slightly better at close range, the G32 is King at longer ranges (the 357 Sig shoots so dang flat).

...don't over-think it. Just eyeball the sight installation and it will be just fine.
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Re: Behind the scenes...

Postby Tye » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:58 pm

I prefer my sights. . .

on a non-Glock platform. :twisted:
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